Friday, February 24, 2006

Two Random Things...

I got a headache reading this one. Just thought it was funny. Hws tht fr hrd t rd.

I wonder if this time it will really work. I’ve seen the “phone over power” (it does not work very well). I’ve seen initial “network over power”. But if Netgear puts this out and it works – I’ll be a happy camper.

I’ve got the Wifi running in the house but – so many things seem to interfere with it from time to time. The microwave being the biggest one (might mean I need to buy a better microwave). No matter what channel I put the Wifi on – the microwave just knocks it out dead. That, and the idea of 200Mb instead of my current Wifi speeds, hmmm.

I could get rid of that Ethernet cable I have running out my office door, across the porch, down into the basement. Moving VM’s (which are 5, 6, …. many gigabytes in size) over the Wifi just doesn’t work.


Blogger David Aldridge said....

Ah you have one of those "wireless" ethernet cables too eh? I run a 50ft (purple) one from my office to the kitchen quite regularly. Wireless is reserved for the summer months when I can work from my deck -- song of the birds, view of the mountains etc :)

Fri Feb 24, 09:30:00 AM EST  

Anonymous Anonymous said....


so many things seem to interfere with it from time to time. The microwave being the biggest one

Have you tried a new wireless router and card recently? I replaced an old router with the Belkin Pre-N and it made a big difference.


I could get rid of that Ethernet cable I have running out my office door, across the porch, down into the basement

Hire a professional electrician and have him run the ethernet wires. I had wires run for the main computers in my house. It cost a few bucks, but I'm glad I did it.

Fri Feb 24, 10:03:00 AM EST  

Blogger Pete_S said....

Perhaps you need a microwave RF leak detector - could be better than frying the kids / wife /domestic pets.

Fri Feb 24, 10:20:00 AM EST  

Anonymous John Flack said....

Three years ago, when I first faced the necessity of making my home network available upstairs (the cable modem and main family computer are downstairs) I considered wifi. Instead, I decided to go with Homeplug - ethernet over home power lines. I bought two adapters, plugged one into the wall downstairs and hooked it to my router. Plugged the other into the wall upstairs and hooked it to the network port on the upstairs computer. Instantly, the upstairs computer was on the network as if it were plugged directly into the router. It was a little faster than wifi "b" at the time, a good bit slower than "g" or the newer versions of wifi. Fast enough for what we needed. We even bought another adapter for a second upstairs computer.

Fri Feb 24, 11:50:00 AM EST  

Anonymous Simon said....

What about this if you can get a US version?

Assuming you'd like to cut back on the Microwaves?

Fri Feb 24, 11:56:00 AM EST  

Blogger Joel Garry said....

I have seen three production installations get blown out by lightning induction because they ran cables outside. Two of them were after I mentioned I had seen the previous.

What's with the FCC anyways? Microwave, baby monitor, answering machine, 900 Mhz telephone all interfere to varying degrees, and all have stickers saying they comply with regulations. Sometimes my X-10 controlled pool light turns on for mysterious reasons. The wifi is still in its box since I cat-5'd. I wouldn't use anything important over the power line unless I had some way of conditioning the power, I've lost too much hardware as it is, especially during fire season voltage spikes.

Disemvoweling funny, using it to censor messages on a board not.

Fri Feb 24, 02:07:00 PM EST  

Anonymous Anonymous said....

Just as long as you're not trying to get away from WiFi because you're paranoid, like this guy. Stories like this make me shake my head -- cancer-free, at the moment, despite cell phones and WiFi and living near those big scary power lines.

Fri Feb 24, 02:09:00 PM EST  

Blogger Thomas Kyte said....

I read about that Wifi thing in Canada with the college. Strange, yes.

No, that is not why I'd like an alternative to wifi - in fact, we'll still run it, I'll just enjoy having the "static machines" wired to eachother.

The laptops can be wired or not as needed.

Fri Feb 24, 02:14:00 PM EST  

Anonymous Anonymous said....

Reminds me of Meihem in Ce Klasrum:

Fri Feb 24, 03:25:00 PM EST  

Anonymous doug c said....

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Sat Feb 25, 06:45:00 AM EST  

Blogger Thomas Kyte said....

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spelling matters use of proper english matters that research is a fluke it does not work in the real world

In fact, I've written a program that takes the correctly spelled text and outputs it mangled this comes up so frequently

Sat Feb 25, 10:28:00 AM EST  

Anonymous Anonymous said....

I never had any luck with powerline networking. I got IOGear power line networking adapters, but the best speed I got was 1-2 Mbps from second floor room to the basement where server was located. The speed was fluctuating all the time. Then couple of months later the adapters died, well partially. They would connect only when connected really close, like on the same set of outlets. Otherwiese they just wouldn't detect each other. I e-mailed the tech support but they replied that I would have to call them with a warning that I had to call only at certain times of day to avoid long waits. I threw out the adapters.

I have very good luck with G wireless neworking. I have signal from 11 access points in my living room as reported by Network Stumbler. The wireless bridge from second floor computer room to basement works rock solid with blazing fast speed even with all these signals. The laptop is never out of signal. The microwave is only like 12 feet away from the laptop and does not interfere.

I would suggest that you use Network Stumbler to check which networks are in the proximity and set channel to avoid them. The Network Stumbler will also tell you if the wireless signal strength is being effected by the microwave. The 2.4Ghz cordless phone can also interfere with wireless so I switched to 5.8Ghz last year.

Sat Feb 25, 03:08:00 PM EST  


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