Thursday, August 06, 2009

It is true...

I get to see a lot of "in house" applications - those applications developed internally for and by a company itself.

The screens on these applications many times have more fields on them than the mind can fathom. Fields and buttons galore.

Just like this cartoon demonstrates...

It is so true - I like simple user interfaces (yes, I'm a metalink classic fan too...)


Blogger Brian Tkatch said....


One thing i find disturbing, is how often the internal website could fill it in for you. Like, when a department asks for my company id and my name.

Um, what if i type in someone else's name? Do you trust them? Or will the process break when you do the check yourself.

A few minutes of extra work by the coder can save a minute from each person who needs to use it. It often makes me wonder, does anybody care?

Thu Aug 06, 07:53:00 AM EDT  

Blogger Egor said....

Have you ever seen Oracle E-Business Suite interface? The cartoon is about it as well (:

Thu Aug 06, 08:28:00 AM EDT  

Anonymous Naresh said....

but in the example shown, the user would PREFER to see all that personal info in one screen rather tham having to navigate multiple screens perhaps? Besides google and apple do pretty specific things right?

Of course, it can be lot worse than shown in the cartoon in the more regular applications. There are also tables with 50 columns or more, which is also pretty hard to "carry in your head". Th etwo may be related...

Thu Aug 06, 08:56:00 AM EDT  

Blogger Thomas Kyte said....

Besides google and apple do pretty specific things right?

And so should most applications.

It is OK to have all of the information you need on a screen, many screens I see should have been 10 or 20 screens - with tabs or something.

User interface design is hard to get right. And most of the time, software developers shouldn't be doing it ;)

I stink at it, I know a good User interface when I see it - but not until I see it (meaning - don't ever ask me to design a UI...)

Thu Aug 06, 09:01:00 AM EDT  

Blogger Dimitri Gielis said....

Very nice cartoon! Thanks for sharing Tom.

It's so true; it's easy to recognise good design, but it's hard to create it.

Graphical people just think differently than us as developers. The questions they ask I would never think about. e.g. which message do you want to bring across (depending the answer the colour scheme is different).

But what I learned during the years; KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid)

Thu Aug 06, 11:10:00 AM EDT  

Anonymous Anonymous said....

My vote is with you, Stop the MY ORACLE SUPPORT (MOS) ..keep the classic or improve on it...whatever..but that FLASH MOS is driving me crazy!

Thu Aug 06, 11:59:00 AM EDT  

Blogger Sidhu said....

Good one Tom...and all truth :)

One thing i have been thinking of asking you since long. Any news about Expert Oracle Architecture Part 2 ? :)

Thu Aug 06, 01:41:00 PM EDT  

Blogger Hector R. Madrid said....

A complex application always makes end users think they have a robust application, it makes managers think the application is worth every dollar paid for it, and it allows software companies to invoice for the application maintenance and training services.

It looks like the classical K.I.S.S. development principle remained only in the classrooms back there in the old school years.

It is being said, "Why should problems be solved the easy way when they can always be solved the hard way?"

Thu Aug 06, 08:11:00 PM EDT  

Blogger Joel Garry said....

Too bad they didn't show what happens when you click the find button. Too many pages, ads, inconsistency between finds, more ads, SEO manipulations, ads that look like results, fake sites, users that learn to ignore parts of screens, webloggings that unfairly make it look like you've navigated to unsafe sites from work...


Fri Aug 07, 12:54:00 PM EDT  

Blogger Robert said....

Classic Metalink rules!

Mon Aug 10, 04:43:00 PM EDT  

Anonymous MVE said....

Flash based Metalink sucks! Surely it was conceived by a non technical / detached from the daily op management folk.

I also liked "TAR" better than the new "SR".

During the days of "Technical Assistance Request" / TAR meant you were talking with real technical people (I especially enjoyed working with UK and Aussie teams).

Now, in "SR" days, I feel like I am talking with a plumbing company - just relaying information (to development that is) ... Just give me access to WebIV and stop wasting my time!

Speaking of WebIV -- now that's an app that is ought to be put on a golden pedestal!!!

Tue Aug 11, 12:18:00 PM EDT  

Blogger Phoenix said....

Way too many websites just did that! Too many buttons, clicks and links that it would take me too much time to find what I want!

Tue Sep 15, 05:06:00 AM EDT  


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